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#17996 Mandatory Reading for New Members

Posted by admin on 05 March 2013 - 08:49 PM

First off, a heartfelt welcome for joining our community. We're glad you found us and look forward to your contribution. In order to make this community pleasurable for all involved, there are some important things you should know. Please take a few minutes to review this material:


1. Why can't I access chat/member profiles/etc ?


As a new member, you will find that some of the site functionality is unavailable to you. This is to prevent spammers spamming our members. Don't worry - once you start contributing to the board, you will quickly be elevated to be a full privilege member and all the site functionality will be available to you. This is all done automatically. Simply go make a few posts and you'll see your restrictions melt away! Make sure your first few posts do not contain any hyperlinks or smileys/emojis otherwise the system will reject it as spam.


You have one additional restriction for your first day of membership: You can only make 3 posts and no more than 1 post every 10 minutes. Sorry about this but we have to stop spammers from flooding the board. Go ahead and make your introductory post, browse around, enjoy and by tomorrow your restrictions will be lifted!


2. An all Inclusive community


Our site encompasses a wide range of members who may or may not be "pro-ana". The site is a welcome support community for those who are suffering from an eating disorder, for those who are in or trying to recover, or for those who are looking for general weight loss. Please be sensitive to this fact and appreciate that we have members here all with different goals.


3. Be on the lookout for spam or spammers


Never respond to a chat, PM, status update or forum posting asking you to contact them offline or via an external email address until you get to know that person. Verify the members post count or reputation. Spammers love registering and then trying to have you remain in contact "off the site". If you see any spam, use the "report" link in the post to notify us immediately.


4. Introduce yourself


Hop on over to the Community Introduction thread and make your first post by introducing yourself. See, you're half way to getting the restrictions lifted already! And please, never mention your real full name in the public forums. Again, WELCOME!


5. Be Smart


Remember noone on this board (or MPA itself) is diagnosed to treat illnesses or destructive behavior. Nobody want's you to get worse. And while the board helps many, you should request to delete your account if you believe this forum is not helping you. It is a place for people who suffer, not a place for those wanting to come here to "get an eating disorder".


6. Know the rules


Please remember to make an effort to read the rules. Most of them are fairly simple and aren't much more than common sense. They are to help create a safe environment for everyone so please have a read and get acquainted with how the site work.

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#2079564 For all those who joined after seeing the lifetime movie

Posted by admin on 28 April 2014 - 06:00 AM

We have had an influx of members joining as a result of watching Starving in Suburbia. Here are a few guidelines to orientate yourself with the site:


The movie to some extent glorifies an eating disorder. Trust us that there is nothing romantic about an ED. If you are looking to lose weight, there are many many options to do so, and developing an ED is not the way forward. Even worse, an eating disorder can develop subtly over time - what starts off as just quickly wanting to lose some weight quickly develops into a lifetime of suffering. If you want to lose weight, learn about calories and macro nutrients and lose weight slowly and consistently. Do not engage on the extreme diets you may find on this site. Do. Not.


You will find this community supporting and caring. However, please don't chat or PM other members asking for tips. They're not being rude...they don't want you to develop a disease that they have. Browse the forums, learn more and become informed on the various eating disorders. 


And if there is one request, it is to run away as fast as you can. Or seek help. There are many avenues available to you, and a good starting point is here:




To our existing members, please remember that you were a "newbie" too once. While your intentions are likely admirable, please remain respectful to all members and avoid posting purposefully harmful "tips" with the sole purpose of using it to target new members. Anybody visiting this site likely has body image concerns and needs support, not ridicule.


Thanks to all


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#973810 Purging - Harm Reduction (PLEASE READ!)

Posted by Detrimental_Dreamer on 22 November 2013 - 07:19 PM

Stay safe!!!(Purging safety.)

Okay, to dispel some of the harmful “Pro-Eating Disorder” tips, I’m going to share a list of safety tips. Mainly since I know if I ask you to quit doing what you are, it will fall on closed ears.

  1. Pro Anorexic sites say, to purge, you "Tie a small candy to a string, and swallow it, then pull it up and you can purge"
    - What if it goes down the wrong hole?
    - You will choke.
    - It doesn’t work. At all. Don’t try.
    - According to a study, those who came into the emergency room for choking, a portion of them tried this method. It didn’t work and two people died.

  2. DO NOT USE:
    - Spoons, Toothbrushes etc. Choking is prominent.

  3. WASH YOUR HANDS RIGHT AFTER. The stomach acid will burn and damage you’re hands.

  4. After you purge. Have an electrolyte replacing drink. Hydrolyte, Gatorade, Powerade, etc. You don’t want to have a heart attack. A girl in America, after being bulimic for only 6 months, was normal weight and died from a heart attack.

  5. If you purge a tablespoon of blood, that’s enough to go to the ER.

  6. Don’t use ipecac syrup. That stuff is death in a bottle! Seriously, they don’t even use it for poisoning anymore because so many people have died after taking it.

  7. If you do purge regularly it is worth asking your doctor from time to time to have your blood electrolyte levels checked.

  8. If you must purge, use a saline rinse and wash out your sinus cavities. Stomach acid and food particles can make it up into these areas and cause serious infections, chronic breathing problems, etc.

  9. If you’re purging via laxative abuse:
    - 2 full glasses of prune juice is as effective as pills and is kinder to your body.
    - Eat things like grapes, oranges, cabbage to help the difficult process of weaning yourself off of laxatives.
    - Drink plenty of water. And do NOT be an idiot and take both lax and water pills, or you’re going to seriously dehydrate yourself and pass out.

  10. If you feel dizzy or lightheaded stop immediately.

  11. If you repeatedly blackout during/after purging, take a break for a few days if possible.

  12. If you heart flutters during, stop immediately.

  13. If you lose sensation in your legs and feet stop immediately.

  14. After a purge, dissolve baking SODA in warm water. Gargle it, rinse your mouth, etc. Wait about 20mins then brush your teeth.

  15. Do NOT brush your teeth right after a purge. It’ll actually rub the stomach acid into the enamel!!!

  16. Helpful things:
    -avoiding acidic foods
    -avoiding spicy foods
    -drinking LOTS of water
    -avoiding soda and other carbonated drinks
    -avoiding or limiting caffeine consumption


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#3026199 The REALITY of Eating Disorders (TW)

Posted by BloomThin on 22 July 2014 - 04:08 PM

ok so about all of the people on here who keep asking how to lose weight as quick as possible.... and for "tips and motivation" please just let me say... there are some people here who actually have a problem. why would you wish this apon yourself?? do you think that starving is fun?? is anorexia cool?? does it make you look cool?? is it in style?? why?? i would NEVER EVER EVER wish it on anyone. 


please tell me... do you actually know anything about this horrid disease.


well for those of you that think its a joke please lett me tell you what happens.


mood swings (BIG ONES)


bad breath (better start carrying your toothbrush everywhere)


pain, joints, headaches, hunger pains (ibeprophen is your best friend)


you pretty much live at the drs office (hope you have a hot doctor)


coldness (all the god damn time)


your hair falls out (hope you didnt like it)


everyone hates you (even you)


you lose all of your friends (better find some as fucked up as you)


depression becomes normal (crying yourself to sleep is now a routine)


weighing yourself becomes something you must do all day long (its not fun, it makes things even worse)


food no longer becomes something you enjoy (its just a number on a page and eventually you will know the calorie intake of everything ever made)


this is just the beginning. please dont put yourself through this just because you want to lose some weight. RUN AWAY!!!!! dont let it control you. 


seriously for those of you who think this is cool, that you can just "go ana" or whatever. its not cool and its not fun and its really offensive for those of us who actually have problems. sorry if you dont like it but its the truth get over it. youll thank me later.



(EDITED) Hey you guys!! Id really love if all of you check out and follow my new blog!!


Thanks yall!

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#409564 A friendly reminder. New members, PLEASE READ

Posted by empty emily on 19 August 2013 - 10:45 PM

(Let's talk strictly anorexia and bulimia for a moment.)


To those of you who are here seeking diet tips: Many members on this site have an eating disorder. We didn't sit down and decide that we'd like to lose weight. None of us will recommend to you doing the things that we've done. We understand what it's like to be stuck at a higher weight, hating yourself, but we also want you to understand, you're not going to love yourself or your body any more once you lose weight this way.


It is your body and there's nothing we can do to really stop you from doing any of this--from reading the forums, from taking tips--and we're not going to try. If you are going to do this, we'd like you to do it as safely as possible, and we can help you with that. We just want you to understand the risks of what you're doing, and to consider the fact that you will be harming your body, and that this could kill you.


Also, please think about this: diets are not all about losing weight quickly. It's about losing it and keeping it off. You should lose weight the healthy way and it is possible, period. There are no excuses, like, "oh, I've tried everything, nothing works!"--if you eat right and exercise, you WILL see results, end of story. We can't do that. If I could choose to start all over at 160 and lose weight the right way, I would in an instant. I've lost 35lbs since relapse and I still hate my body. I will always hate it, because I am sick. You could die doing this. We want you to understand the risks.


This community is, however, accepting of all of its members. You will not be treated any differently if you have an ED than if you don't have an ED. You will become part of the family here, no matter what. We will encourage you to seek help and we will support you through whatever mess you're in, but we do not encourage people to starve themselves. You will receive information on weight loss and nutrition from the experts, but you will not be told to starve yourself.


To the long-standing members: This site is all-inclusive. We should be accepting of everyone who comes here, even those looking for a "quick way to lose weight". We need to be supportive-- people come here for support, and to feel less alone. By telling someone without an ED who comes here to find diet tips to "leave" and that they are "stupid" or "not welcome here", you're doing far more harm than good.


We should explain these things to them. We've all become very knowledgeable about weight loss, calories, exercise, and things of this nature; they know this. If they ask us for tips, they're obviously desperate for some sort of help, so talk to them. We need to tell them what works and what will keep them healthy. Some of us know these things better than our doctors know them.


I don't want these dieters to develop develop an eating disorder any more than you do-- so show them how horrible this is for them. Warn them of the dangers. If they still want to proceed, there are obviously some deeper issues. You can encourage them to get help all you want, but ultimately, it's up to them what they do with their bodies.


I would not wish this disorder on my worst enemy. This is hell on earth.

You cannot choose to have an eating disorder, but you may develop one here. It is very triggering. You will become fascinated by food and overjoyed at your weight loss.

You may lose weight quickly through starving yourself, but that progress will be gone the moment you begin eating properly again.


This is not a diet. This is not a lifestyle. Should you choose to make this mental illness your diet or your lifestyle, you will be forever ruining your body, hurting those around you, and ultimately, killing yourself.


Once you start counting calories, you will never stop.

None of us want this for you. We want you to be happy, healthy, and able to love yourselves.


Please, be safe.

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#6854939 MPA Community Rules

Posted by admin on 29 July 2015 - 07:32 AM

Detailed below are the rules that apply to every member of MPA. Please ensure you take the time to read and understand these rules before posting or creating any content. MPA is a support site. Meaning, there are limits to what can be said. This is in the interest of creating a safe and supportive atmosphere for all members. The foundation of these rules is be supportive. 


1. Be supportive and non judgemental

  • This is the absolute golden rule of MPA. Please ensure that all your content is in line with this rule.


2. No abusive behaviour

  • No name-calling. Do not add personal insults onto replies: ‘...you *expletive* *insult*’ for example, is not OK. Doing this attacks the other person, and is hurtful, unnecessary, and not supportive.
  • No hate speech, bigotry, or prejudice of any kind towards any group of people. Making a remark insulting the race, culture, religion, sexuality, gender, etc. of another person, or expressing a broad dislike for any group of people is for what should be obvious reasons, not tolerated. As an eating disorder/mental health site, these traits are especially off limit for attack or abuse. Be supportive.
  • No attacking body shape or size, especially if the original poster did not ask for that sort of feedback. As an ED site body shape, weight, size, etc. are highly sensitive topics. Please be very careful when commenting on aesthetics, whether that is aimed at another member or not. Body shaming of anyone, whether underweight, overweight, or anywhere in between is not something that is tolerable on an eating disorder site.
  • Do not question, or cast aspersions on, someone else’s eating disorder. Eating disorders manifest themselves across a spectrum, in numerous ways. No one is in a position to comment on the severity, legitimacy, or validity of anyone else’s eating disorder. Discussions about what defines a ‘real’ eating disorder are prohibited.
  • Swearing is acceptable within reason, however please avoid directly cursing other members. Certain swears (b**tch, c*nt, etc.) may be acceptable to you, but this is not universal. Please err on the side of caution.


3. No inappropriate language. This includes (but is not limited to) such things as:

  • Snarky remarks intended to belittle; ‘This is dumb’
  • Dismissive replies to express dislike; ‘How is this a question?’
  • Sarcastic replies aiming to put down and invalidate: ‘this is a great idea. Why don’t you...as well?’

If you do not like a thread, or care for its content, please express your opinion politely and with respect - or move on. It is little things such as these that lead to a hostile environment. This applies heavily to the hazing of new members. A person new to MPA does not deserve their first experience to be sarcastic inside jokes, comments questioning their content, or remarks invalidating their posts. This is a support site; therefore be supportive.



4. No singling out any other member(s)

  • Do not make threads for the purpose of attacking, calling out, or targeting any other member(s). This is bullying.
  • Do not make reference to any other member(s), whether current or former, in posts, signatures, profiles, statuses, or anywhere else for the purpose of insulting, belittling, or abusing them. This includes indirect naming through references and nicknamesThis is bullying. 
  • Do not make threads about, or create any content referring to other members, even if you have genuine concern about their legitimacy. Raise a report, or PM a moderator. Do not do it publicly.

Singling out of another member is a blatant attack. It is not expected that everyone will get along perfectly, so when there is a clash, people are expected to ignore each other, be civil, and not attack each other. If you are having continuous issues with a user, please use the block feature, and if it continues, take it to a moderator. In summary; no derogatory, slanderous, defamatory, or abusive content that can reasonably be interpreted to be about another member (whether directly or indirectly).



5. No publicly inciting drama

  • Do not have extended disagreements over personal matters publicly.
  • Do not bring up past drama by reigniting old arguments, or linking to old threads. This is perpetuating hostility across the forums, and is distracting attention from people who need support.


6. No creating second accounts for the purpose of trolling or evading warnings

  • Due to on-going abuse of the privilege, second, third, etc. accounts made to dodge warnings will be banned. The warning issued to the original account is intended to remove you from the situation. Entering into the situation again will only perpetuate drama and cause further arguments.
  • Second accounts created to troll or spread negativity will be banned, and the main account issued with warning points. Trolling an eating disorder/mental health support site is completely unacceptable.
  • Any accounts to come back from a ban are on a zero tolerance policy. You were banned for a reason. 


7.  No spamming or topic bumping

  • No posting links to, or advertising any other sites for the purpose of promoting your own product or service, or a specific product or service. Linking to things you personally have found useful and that are relevant are fine within reason. Continual promotion, however, is not.
  • No posting multiple links to your own off-site content (for example YouTube channels). Again, it is OK to post such things where appropriate (e.g. The Watercooler), however doing this on a large scale is not.
  • No posting multiple pictures or irrelevant comments in a thread. Image replies have their place, but posting many and derailing a thread is rude and disrespectful to other posters. Create your own thread for such things. 
  • No necrobumping. Do not bump old and therefore no longer relevant threads. 


8. No posts asking for money

  • Due to abuse, posts asking for money are banned, as we do not want to risk profiteering off, or financial risk to, our members. Do not promote donation sites, or ask for financial aid.


9. No posts asking for drugs

  • Please don't ask for drugs over MPA. We don't want to be a place where people swap pills.


10. No publicly posting contact details

  • Due to instances of members of this site and others being targeted, in order to ensure the safety of everyone, posts found with contact details will be edited and the details removed. This is to maximize safety. We urge people to only give out contact information over PM, and only to people proven absolutely trustworthy. Please exercise extreme caution with your contact information. This includes, but is not limited to; phone numbers, email addresses, Kik usernames, SnapChat usernames, etc. Please note that removing of contact information is not guaranteed as MPA does not edit or review posts before going live, and posts are not reviewed as a matter of routine, so please use common sense when posting your contact information.


11. No nudity

  • Any posts containing any form of nudity will have the relevant pictures removed if found by a moderator. This includes (but is not limited to); general replies, posts in Selfies, gallery pictures, display pictures, and signatures. In body check pictures; please ensure intimate areas are covered appropriately. Please note there is a complete ban on posts at underwear/bikini level for those below 18 due to potential abuse.


12. No posting the same content across multiple forums

  • Please do not post the same thread across multiple, or knowingly incorrect forums in order to garner more visibility and replies. Any examples of this will be merged into one thread in the relevant forum.


13. No posting links to another person’s social media profiles, or material taken from these

  • For reasons of privacy, please do not post links to other member's media channels (i.e. Instagrams, Facebooks,) or any other content by which their name/location/other information could be garnered from. Respect others.


These rules may seem extensive but 99% of it is purely common sense. They have been thoughtfully constructed by the moderating team after extensive periods of modding and are intended to keep the community inviting for all members.


Thanks for your attention to these.

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#5235733 TAKE HEED: Please stop saying "girls" & "ladies" in your...

Posted by whichfux on 24 February 2015 - 10:52 PM

It's just so offensive to those who have eating disorders and also HAPPEN TO NOT HAVE A VAGINA.
& even if they DO have a vagina, they might not want to be considered a girl or lady.

Open your eyes, there are plenty of non-ladies on this website who probably feel extremely:

-just fucking shitty

because of the amount of people on this site who seem to think eating disorders are exclusive to girls & ladies.

Just be more considerate.


*a quick specifying edit*
Yeah, it's cool if you have a question about vaginas or dicks or gender related things, go ahead and be more gender specific then. My point here is to be more inclusive when posting about generalized ED topics, such as "what did you eat today?" in the "Anorexic Discussions" forum. This is a SUPPORT website, therefore we should be more inclusive & considerate to ALL who come here looking for just that. If we are not, then we defeat the purpose of this lovely website & make people who come here for support turn away perhaps believing they still belong nowhere.

05/2017 edit: I'm still in awe of how many people feel the need to try to argue this topic or fuck around with semantics. It's easy common sense & basic human decency. Be kind & be aware. Don't be an asshole.
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#4063072 Post pictures of your meals!

Posted by HungryGirl on 02 November 2014 - 01:24 PM

Breakfast of champions

0 calories

Sorry couldn't help myself. Knew it was coming and wanted to be the first!

Attached Files

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#5126668 #BulimiaProblems

Posted by Grotesque at best on 14 February 2015 - 10:52 PM

*has house to self*

*has mega binge*

*goes to purge*

*front door opens and family enters*
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#81281 No Real Ana v Fake Ana discussions

Posted by admin on 07 May 2013 - 09:33 AM

As part of our continued "No Judging" policy of this site, please do not post any threads related to discussing "Real Ana" v "Fake Ana" discussions (Wannarexic vs anorexic etc).


This also means no "Ana v EDNOS" discussions.




Because in one way or another it is a judgmental position to take.


As a community, we do not care if you are a "real ana" or a EDNOS, or if you just want to lose weight or if you're really confused and just stopping by. No one particular classification is better than any other classification. Whether you've been officially diagnosed for the last 20 years, or whether you just stumbled on this site, there is no judging one group over another.



What should I do if I see such a thread?


Hit the "report" link inside the thread. And please please please do not jump in and comment on the thread. Simply report it and move on. That way the thread poster does not  get attention and we will silently delete the thread.

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#4707994 How I lost 25 lbs in 3 weeks

Posted by ravegirl on 05 January 2015 - 04:13 PM

Exactly a year ago I went on a diet that basically changed my life. I lost a bit more than 25 lbs within 3 weeks, went from a 10 to a 6 in jeans. My starting weight was about 160 and I dropped to 133. I've struggled all my life with finding a successful diet plan that works, but trust me when I say this one does! Some people would say it's a bit extreme but it works, and fast. This wasn't just water weight coming off either. I noticeably changed sized, could more visibly see my hips and ribs, and had my friends who hadn't seen me in those few weeks tell me how they couldn't believe I'd gotten so thin. The best part was I noticed it myself. So here's what I did... 


1. Cut calories- I was eating around 300-400 calories a day


2. Eat within a 7 hour time period- I ate breakfast at 11:00 am, and ate dinner around 5:00 pm (never ate past 6:00 pm)


3. Burned approx. 500 calories a day from cardio (40 mins) and Pilates (20-30 mins) 


4. Extremely strict diet: Only ate lean protein and veggies. No oil, not even for cooking. I was eating very clean. No sugar, carbs or fat. The only fat, sugar and carbs I was intaking was from what was naturally in the protein and veggies I was eating. 


5. Drank 3 cups of green tea a day and 6-8 cups of water 


6. Cooked with no calorie seasonings, hot sauce, lite soy sauce, mustard, and vinegar. Anything with no to very little calories is okay, very little sugar and carbs too. 


Example of what I would eat daily: 


Breakfast= Egg whites w/ onion and hot sauce, approx. 80 cals

Dinner= Boiled 4oz chicken breast, then shredded and seasoned, approx. 150 cals, string beans sautéed w/ soy sauce & black pepper, approx. 80 cals

TOTAL CALORIES: 310 calories


I followed this diet everyday and my results were amazing. After 3 weeks I went back to school, I still tried to eat only veggies and lean protein, but added in some oils and carbs, and I was eating a lot more calories and working out a lot less. Still, with doing this, a few weeks a later I dropped to 128 lbs, was a dress size 4 and felt amazing. Now it's a year later, I've been eating like a pig and not exercising for months straight and I've gained about 15 lbs. I plan on starting this diet again because I know it works! You should try it too, it's not as hard as it sounds and once you see results in the first week it's total motivation to keep it up! 

PS: The pilates I was doing really helped to tone me up. Not only did I loose weight but my body looked good. My butt was perfect and my love handles almost disappeared, lol. I suggest checking out blogilates.com with Cassie Ho. Her videos are great, she's super motivating and the workouts are kind of fun. It's not hard to push yourself through. 


Good luck to everyone who decides to follow a similar plan (: 


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#4483352 anorexic things you accidentally said

Posted by rotting💀 on 15 December 2014 - 04:02 PM

lmao one time my bf's mom was like "gavin are u hungry i'll make u something" and i said "nah, i hate food" it was the most straightforward fuck up of my life

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Posted by Cymmetry on 15 March 2016 - 10:34 PM

today i was at a restaurant and when i was walking to my table this obese couple just eyed me up & down.

in my head i was like yes you fat fucks look at me.

look at my tooth pick legs in these super skinny jeans.

look how much skinnier and prettier and better i am than you.

look how i make this thrift store outfit look effortlessly fabulous because everything looks good on skinny.

i bet you come here every week & stuff your faces with burritos.

(i'm stuffing my face with a burrito too but shhh you don't know i'm 'bout to barf it up.)

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#5854555 Create your own ED meme! (or post funny ED memes) TW may be slightly offe...

Posted by Inachis io on 22 April 2015 - 07:13 AM

created by Inachis io

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#28944682 Newbie Hazing: The bullshit ritual that stops NOW.

Posted by Bibliophile on 01 May 2017 - 11:08 AM

Right, enough is enough. MPA is one of the most popular and busiest eating disorder sites out there, but yet we're coming across as one of the most unwelcoming and downright nasty communities there is at times, and it's time for it to stop. For someone to join this site in the first place they are already going through a difficult time, and what are they walking into? Downright abuse. This is NOT who we are, this is NOT the way we roll at MPA. 


So it stops today. 


First off, let's take a moment to look at some relevant links:


MPA Community Rules - please pay special attention to #3


Mandatory Reading for New Members - please pay special attention to #2


No Real vs. Fake Discussions - please read through it all


Regarding New Members - a post not even a few months old, already flat out ignored


Being frank, it does not matter if you don't personally like tips. It is not your place to make the rules, it is your place to adhere to the ones set down by admin. It is perfectly fine to gently try and help someone, and let them know about the negative experiences you've had, but it is not OK (and nor will it ever be) to act like a self righteous arsehole. It has been clearly stated on multiple occasions by admin, and all members of the Moderating Team that you do NOT need a diagnosed ED to be a member of MPA, and you can be ANYWHERE on the spectrum - from disordered to dieting. 


It is likely that someone joining MPA is already in a very negative mindset with a shockingly low opinion of themselves, what are they met with? Outright nastiness. They are being ganged up on, undermined, and mocked. What lovely behaviour! How welcoming we look! Stop. 


Consider this - you are making someone who already thinks very little of themselves feel like absolute shit. You are risking sending them into worse behaviour, or driving them away from a community that could HELP them feel better about themselves - look how complimentary we are in selfies, how caring we can be in mental health threads For so many of you this is a haven, the only place you feel you can be yourselves, why are you denying others the right to that feeling of sanctuary? 


No, this is not all of you, but a significant proportion of you should be ashamed of the way you are behaving. So many of us have been bullied, belittled, abused - we all know how it feels to feel like shit, so why make someone else feel that way? 


Stop the bullying, stop the harmful behaviour, and try helping someone. Having a higher post count does not mean you own MPA.


As of right now anyone caught newbie hazing will receive a verbal warning. The second instance will incur warning points. You will not stop receiving warning points until you learn to be a supportive member of what was once a community I was proud to be a member of. 


*drops mic*

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#6326081 Funny shit anorexics do/ or say

Posted by Choco_Bitch_612 on 05 June 2015 - 11:39 PM

um anorexia isn't funny. it's a serious mental disease. this stuff isn't funny. it's serious. wtf.

She did NOT say Anorexia is funny. Jeez, it's not a crime to laugh at yourself sometimes.

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#9245538 Water retention, food weight, weight loss plateaus, and you! General info

Posted by redbean on 22 March 2016 - 08:37 AM

Alright, I know this has been touched on many times over many different threads and posts, but it seems like it'd be relevant to create one meta post providing some useful info that I can link to corresponding topics. If you've ever read one of my posts you'll know that I say 5000 words when only one sentence is necessary so go to the tl;dr if you're not that interested in the extensive details/rambling that I provide.


Have you ever had a time where you did everything perfectly, exercised for hours a day, ate almost no food at all, but somehow gained weight overnight? Or you've been diligently sticking to your deficit, but for weeks have not lost any weight? Or you binged and overnight gained like 2041259 lbs of scale weight? I'm positive those things have happened to every single person here because it's how the body works lol, I promise your metabolism isn't broken or special or whatever. It's more than likely just water.


What is water retention?


Water retention, otherwise known as edema, is pretty much exactly what it sounds like. It's an "abnormal accumulation of clear, watery fluid in the tissues or cavities of the body". The causes for water retention can range from severe, acute medical problems such as kidney or heart failure, to something as mundane as eating a dish far saltier than your typical fare. Water weight is an inevitable part of life, and even moreso, and inevitable part of eating disorders. Weight loss isn't linear (unlike fat loss) and ED behaviors in particular strongly contribute to water retention.


How do I know if I'm retaining water?


Signs include:

  • A large and spontaneous increase in weight overnight. Like 2+ lbs.
  • A scale weight that does not move or fluctuates very slightly after days/weeks of restricting; A scale weight that is significantly far off from your projected weight loss.
  • Bloated appearance, puffy/round face, red lines from socks or shoes or upon waking up, swollen legs/ankles/feet especially, swollen fingers.
  • Pressing down on the skin leaves an indent or "spot".


What causes water retention?


Everything. Seriously.


Changes in sodium intake. This is the largest offender, especially for ED sufferers and dieters, as many common "safe foods" contain little to no sodium at all. This makes it so that when you eat anything that contains high sodium, even if it is not high calorie or unhealthy for you, it can cause your body to retain water temporarily in response.



"We conclude that a high NaCl intake may increase GAG synthesis; this might play a role in osmotically inactive Na retention in humans."


To summarize the results of this for anyone who doesn't care to look, the men gained on average 2.2 lbs when moving from the low salt diet to the normal salt diet. An average of 1 lb more in water retention occurred when moving from normal salt to high salt diet. It can be inferred from these results that a relatively healthy individual could easily gain (and retain) 2-3 lbs of water from one high sodium meal in the context of a regular low sodium diet. That's not even accounting for any other factors, and right there you have the amount of weight gain most people commonly get upset about after a binge or abnormally large/unhealthy meal on MPA.


Hormonal changes. If you still get your period, you are susceptible to pre-period water retention. Low-calorie dieting and EDs are strongly associated with higher levels of cortisol, which in turn is associated with longterm chronic water retention. It's an unfortunate issue because restricting cals and stressing over weight loss can cause you to retain water and therefore stagnate in weight loss, which in turn causes many ED sufferers to just freak the fuck out more and create more stress hormones and more water retention. Life sucks.


https://en.wikipedia...water_retention (yeah I just cited wikipedia, call the cops idgaf this is an MPA post not an essay)

"During this event, the water retention can store enough extra fluid to add an extra 5–6 pounds (2.3–2.7 kg) of weight. The phenomenon is thought to be caused by high levels of circulating progesterone, as well as of estrogen and prolactin, stimulating secretory cells in the body and in the breasts."


Y'all reading this? 5-6 lbs of weight. FIVE (5) or more POUNDS, TWO POINT THREE (2.3) or more KILOGRAMS of weight, all in fluid. It's not body fat, it'll go away temporarily, but at the time you might not be thinking about that. I think it's important to track your period and chill in the 3-5 days leading up to it, because water retention is incredibly common and you'll just get even more stressed over something you can't control at all.



"Edema was detected in the following areas: facial, epigastric, mammary, umbilical, and pubic, the mid-third of the arms, distal forearm, in both thighs and in the mid-third of the legs determined by circumference measurements, and in both upper and lower limbs, according to the estimated volume."


I'm too lazy to transcribe all of this but it's an interesting read if you want info more scientific than a wikipedia snub. It particularly addresses water retention/water weight gain in particular parts of the body, as well as other prevalent PMS symptoms.



"Anorexia nervosa (AN) and functional hypothalamic amenorrhea (HA) are associated with low bone density, anxiety, and depression. Women with AN and HA have elevated cortisol levels."





Once again, all interesting reads if you want to know more about it. It's so difficult to find any kind of scientific information about this stuff that isn't anecdotal, but I know a lot of people (esp people very under the sway of their EDs) won't find anecdotal evidence compelling. It's not 100% clear to me why chronically elevated cortisol leads to water retention, but leading theories suggest it may have something to do with sodium retention. It's relatively well known that people with Cushing syndrome, adrenal fatigue, female athlete triad or AN all experience severe water retention issues related to hormonal problems but it's hard to find studies supporting that. If you need or want more reassurance, I highly suggest googling for anecdotal threads and accounts of these things.


Exercise. Finding anything scientific for this one was brutal but I s2g this is a real thing that I personally experience and other people all commonly experience. Large amounts of exercise can cause water retention due to increases in stress hormones and adrenal fatigue, dehydration (more on how that impacts water retention later), and tears in muscle fiber bringing fluid into the cells to aid repair. Or some shit like that. Either way, I gain like 2-3 lbs of water weight a day or two after an intense weight lifting session 100% of the time, esp if I'm hitting legs. If you are skeptical, google and you'll find sooo many people even with healthy diets/bodies saying that they get this. Starting a new exercise regime or increasing intensity/duration will often result in a 2-5 lb water weight gain as the body adjusts to the stimulation and tries to repair muscles.




"Triathletes with symptomatic hyponatremia following very prolonged exercise have abnormal fluid retention including an increased extracellular volume, but without evidence for large sodium losses. Such fluid retention is not associated with elevated plasma AVP concentrations."


Dehydration. Look, I'm sure we've all heard it at some point: drink water to lose water, more fluid flushes the fluid out, etc. idk man that's all true. Not drinking a sufficient amount of water can cause your body to hold onto it because ofc you need it for living and if it thinks it's not getting enough or won't be getting enough, it won't let go of it. I'm not 100% sure why, I'm no biologist or anything but it happens.



http://www.techtimes...dehydration.htm (shitty source but I'm not buying this journal lmao I'll just take their word for it)

"The said ion channel activates during dehydration and switches on neurons in the hypothalamus, the part of the brain signaling the body to respond favorably in maintaining fluid balance. This is made possible by thirst and the secretion of vasopressin, a hormone that promotes water retention in the kidneys."


Yeah not the most compelling evidence, but it's relatively known that dehydration contributes to water retention. Plus it can lead to organ failure or hormonal issues that also contribute to water retention. Now this one applies heavily to EDs because I've noticed a lot of people with EDs tend to get dehydrated asf due to disordered behavior. If you exercise heavily, you need to replace your liquids afterwards. If you purge, you need to replace your liquids afterwards & honestly you'll probably get terribly bad water retention when you first start and first stop purging heavily. It can fuck with your body's signals a lot if you are constantly putting water into it and then expelling it, esp if you don't rehydrate afterwards.


Carbohydrate intake, protein intake. Carbohydrates as a macronutrient retain more water than other macronutrients. Protein deficiency (which a lot of ppl here seem to avoid protein or eat very little of it- NOT GOOD) can lead to water retention and once again, organ failure and hormonal issues which contribute to water retention.



"When you consume carbohydrates, your body converts them to glycogen, which is then stored in the muscles for energy. For every gram of glycogen stored, you gain approximately 2.7 grams of water. This water retention occurs because your kidneys hold on to sodium in response to carbohydrate consumption. Your body reacts to the higher sodium levels by storing more water to keep the sodium-blood concentration at a healthy level."


Okay, basically what it's saying is that carbs = glycogen. Glycogen = +stored water. Carbs = temporary water weight gain. Don't trip about this or anything, carbs and glycogen are what your brain & body runs on and you absolutely need carbs in your life. Cutting out entire macronutrients is a terriiible idea for anyone. It does mean that if you eat a large "binge" or honestly just a lot of carbs in general, regardless of the calorie total, you could temporarily gain weight in the form of water + glycogen stores. If you are usually in a net deficit esp if you are a carb restricter, it hardly matters because you'll deplete your glycogen stores again in no time and potentially take more water with it, which is why many people experience net weight loss a day or two after a carby binge.





Two cruuusty, old, ancient rat studies but w/e who checks these citations anyways? "When protein (especially albumin) levels in your blood go too low, the colloidal osmotic pressure will decrease and allow fluid to escape from blood vessels into your tissues, resulting in edema or swelling of the hands, feet, ankles, knees and/or belly."

Best scientific explanation I could find for this particular process. Either way idk man protein has essential amino acids which our body does not naturally produce, your body can't regulate water or do like anything without it. Other deficiencies like vitamins, iron, b12, etc also contribute to water retention. Eat protein, I could write a whole other essay on why protein is so important yet so ignored by ED diets.


Other causes? Yeah there's a lot of other causes but I think I've covered the main ones. If you want more info on a particular cause feel free to PM me or ask in a post, I can go into detail, but this is long asf already and I don't wanna talk about all the many fringe causes of water retention. Serious medical issues like various organ failure, rare diseases like Addison's, medication or birth control use, sleep deprivation, thyroid disorders and food intolerances can contribute to water retention and temporary water weight gain.


Food weight and the why/what.


This is a simple concept that I don't think needs too much citation or explanation, but it's easily forgotten when you're in a vulnerable emotional state. If you have a purse and you put something into it, the purse will be heavier, ya feel? But the purse itself isn't heavier. It's just the weight of the objects you put into it. If you eat 2 lbs of broccoli, there's no guarantee you gained 2 lbs of fat, but you did just "gain" 2 lbs of broccoli. Same with if you drink 2 liters of water, you didn't gain 2 liters of weight, you're just holding 2 liters of water. It's like if you put on a shirt and shoes, then got on the scale and got upset that the number is heavier. You're not heavier, by any means. The sum of the objects inside of you (lol) and your own bodyweight just leads to a higher arbitrary scale number. It's just as pointless to get upset with yourself and put yourself down or harm yourself due to this as it is to yell at your purse or injure it because the objects you put into the purse made it temporarily heavier than you'd like it to be. Yeah I'm a real analogy master I know, but I think y'all get the point.


Once again people with EDs have specific issues with food weight, due to SERIOUS POOP PROBLEMS. In normal populations, you're supposed to eliminate the food you ate from your body like... daily, or at least every couple days. In AN, EDNOS, BN, and BED, those things just don't always happen like they're supposed to. Dehydration, lack of fiber, lack of protein, sedentary lifestyle, laxative abuse and food intolerance is all greatly influenced by disordered behaviors, and all greatly lead to interference with taking a normal shit. Realistically at any time you're probably only retaining like a 0.5-1 lb of poop max, but if you have SERIOUS POOP PROBLEMS you could be retaining up to like 2 lbs of poop. That's only in very extreme circumstances though.


Okay, so you've said a lot of things, but how is any of this related or relevant to my overnight 12 lb weight gain which is definitely all fat?


Ain't that the thing though? It's not. It is virtually impossible for anyone to maintain linear weight loss on a daily or even weekly basis. You just can't lose weight every single day. It won't happen. Someday you will step on the scale and the number will be higher than it was yesterday, and it doesn't mean it was a fault of your own, or that you gained fat, or that you fucked up and need to feel terrible about yourself or eat less or purge more. If you've followed me thus far in this post and maybe looked at some of the sources/info, you should realize there are a lot of factors that contribute to the temporary gain of scale weight. The water can last days or weeks or even months; I promise you are still losing fat and weight ultimately. It is not physiologically possible to eat a calorie deficit every day without failure and not lose fat. It is not physiologically possible to gain 5 lbs overnight after a binge- you would have to eat 17500 calories OVER YOUR TDEE for that to happen, and absorb all of them. Most of you probably don't even fully eat and absorb a binge large enough to gain even 1 lb of fat, which would be 5000+ cals for virtually all of the population. It isn't possible to fast and eat nothing, but still gain fat. However, for all of these scenarios, it is entirely possible to gain & retain temporary water and food weight that makes you look bloated, feel "fat", and makes the scale look way higher than you really are. It can even obscure weight loss for weeks or months at a time. If you are retaining 5 lbs of water and you lose 2 lbs a week, it would take almost 3 weeks to catch up and notice any weight loss on the scale. But you ARE losing weight and eventually the fruits of your effort will come to light. Stressing out about it will only make the water retention worse, and dropping calories/carbs/upping exercise or purging is not the solution. You just need to be patient. I know how hard that is, I truly do, but there is no other way.


Okay, ignoring all of that, what are some good tips 'n tricks for preventing food weight & water retention?


Even if you've been reading all this, I KNOW some of y'all are reading this and waiting to post this question or thread, lol. I can't emphasize enough that everyone will retain water at some point, esp people with EDs, and everyone will have some day where they eat a lot of carbs, or sodium, or calories or their cortisol goes wack or something and they retain 2-3 lbs of water more than they were the previous day. Like as an individual there's nothing you can do to permanently stop that. But REGARDLESS.

  • Stay hydrated. So important. Please just drink water and especially replace fluid after purging, lax abuse, or excessive exercise. If you consume a lot of caffeine or abuse recreational drugs (alcohol included), drink even more fluids.
  • Don't do opiates lol and drink looots of water if you use stims. Adderall can make you utterly not thirsty but you still need it even if you don't feel it.
  • Consume as close to your protein requirement daily as you can, and eat fiber.
  • Utilize "refeed days". More on that later (yea I bet you're excited to read more)
  • Eat a consistent sodium intake, preferably low sodium.
  • Exercise a healthy amount and do not overexercise or do chronic steady state cardio.
  • Don't heavily restrict your calories. Lmao idk why I'm even typing this here but it's true, this would make the biggest difference in water weight.
  • Don't get a period or use birth control or take estrogen.
  • Sleep the recommended amount, and make sure it's good sleep.

Diuretics and laxatives...

Yeah let's just stop right there. Not a good idea for controlling food or water weight. At some points I think laxative use can become helpful or slightly necessary for regular bowel movements when you are very far into extreme calorie restriction but diuretic use is never ever ever a good idea unless it's prescribed to you by a doctor. Besides, they'll temporarily flush the water/food out of your body, but the second you eat again or rehydrate (and you will have to do these things to live), you'll just gain the "weight" back and your body will potentially hold it longer because you were being illogical and mean to it.


You mentioned a refeed? A... what?


Yeah. A refeed. http://www.bodybuild...ind-leptin.html. Okay I'm sure some of you instantly just discredited this concept and exited outta this noise because I linked bodybuilding.com. I think we can learn a lot from the fitness community because many of them exhibit disordered behaviors in a somehow not disordered context, or at least simulate the conditions of EDs during contest prep and rapid fat loss. It's a stupid article with some bad broscience but there are some good sources and the general concept that having a higher calorie/higher carbohydrate day amongst longterm extreme restrictive dieting can have a significantly positive effect on mental & physical well-being. Just one or two days of higher carbs can drop cortisol levels, improve leptin, and just make you 100% less angry at everything. Plus what I was talking about earlier where the body draws water into the glycogen-filled cells and once you deplete the glycogen, the water you were retaining goes with it, which is one of the many factors as to why someone can have a "cheat day" or "binge" and lose weight a day or two later ultimately. In fitness terms, it is called the "whoosh effect".


The whoosh effect: the fun part of water retention. The "whoosh" is defined as the moment when your body inevitably gets rid of all that water weight it's been saving up. I'm sure many of you have experienced this and loved it, though you may not have mentally associated it with the stagnation or gains in the scale you experienced previously. I mean you just wake up one day after a binge, or alcohol use, or just not doing anything at all, and you lost 3-7 lbs or some other crazy number that you couldn't have possibly physiologically lost overnight. When you start to see the scale not progressing or increasing for no good reason, instead of getting upset, you should just get excited because it means you'll see some big good shit good shit in 2 days to 2 months. It's something to look forward to, right?






I highly, HIGHLY recommend reading these articles even if you don't like the bodybuilding community. There's some broscience and a little bit of shilling from Michael Matthews especially but these guys have all trained countless individuals, talked to countless competitors and people losing weight/fat, and read way too many studies about optimal fat loss. Water retention is almost a bigger deal in the fitness community because bloat and appearance of glycogen filled muscles vs glycogen depleted muscles is more significant to their businesses, photos, and competitions.


"Back during my college days, one of my professors threw out the idea that after fat cells had been emptied of stored triglyceride, they would temporarily refill with water (glycerol attracts water, which might be part of the mechanism).  So there would be no immediate change in size, body weight or appearance. Then, after some time frame, the water would get dropped, the fat cells would shrink.  A weird way of looking at it might be that the fat loss suddenly becomes ‘apparent’. That is, the fat was emptied and burned off days or weeks ago but until the water is dropped, nothing appears to have happened." This quote from my boy Lyle in particular changed my life. There's not much (if any) scientific evidence to support this, but I have personally noticed it to be 100% true that my body fat gets like... worse looking right before a "whoosh", or spontaneous drop in water weight. There's no guarantee it'll be true for you, but once I start looking gross and having obvious signs of water retention, I get excited because in probably 3-5 days I'm about to lose a lot of weight/inches.




Due to all the factors I outlined above and more, it is completely possible to gain and retain 2 lbs to 10 lbs of water weight for weeks, or even months. A "weight loss plateau" is almost guaranteed to be a case of water retention and not a fat loss plateau. At some point in your disorder, your water retention will obscure your weight loss, sometimes for a few days or sometimes a very long period. There is virtually nothing you can do about it and it is no fault of your own. It is abnormal but ENTIRELY POSSIBLE for someone with medical problems or co-occurring factors to gain or retain huuuge amounts of water weight, like 10-20 lbs worth of it, in the context of eating disorders.


Why write all this? LITERALLY who cares?


I do. If this post can help even just one person feel better emotionally, it was worth taking the time to write it. Too many people here don't know about water retention and beat themselves up for a natural, inevitable physiologically process that they can't possibly control or do anything about. It makes me incredibly sad to see, and I hope after reading this, it will stick in people's minds when they wake up after a week of restricting and didn't lose any weight, or they gained 6 lbs after a day of "binging", or they fasted for 72 hours but gained a lb. Day to day fluctuations are a normal part of being human and reducing the stress & guilt caused by these unavoidable changes in weight can help in the management of eating disorder symptoms.

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Posted by fruit on 15 March 2016 - 10:22 PM

And I mean sometimes I judge people so harshly on their bodies. I'm super pro-body positivity but God the ed voice fucking fucks me up and I get so rude inside my head.

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#15 The ABC Diet Explained

Posted by admin on 03 December 2012 - 10:13 PM

The ABC Diet


What is it?

The ABC diet stands for the Ana Boot Camp (ABC) diet used by people in the Pro Ana community for extreme weight loss.


Does it work?

Yes, the ABC Diet can cause extreme weight loss in a very short period of time. It is not uncommon for a dieter to lose 15-25 lbs when following the diet.


How long is the diet?

The full ABC Diet lasts for 50 days, of which 5 days are fasting days. On the other days, you change the calories allowed to prevent the body from going into starvation mode.


What is starvation mode?

If you continually deprive the body of calories, your body will think it is being “starved” and an ancient survival mechanism kicks in and your metabolism slows way down. In essence, your body is trying to prevent losing its last energy stores. The ABC diet tries to differ the amount of calories you get to keep your body guessing and preventing starvation mode.


What can I eat on the ABC Diet?

The ABC Diet itself does not dictate what foods you can or cannot eat. Instead, it focuses on calories only. In theory, you could consume your entire day’s allotment of calories in chocolate, but this clearly is a non-nutritious way of meeting your goals and certainly not recommended.


How many meals per day can I have on the ABC diet?

There is no set limit on this diet. Instead the focus is on total daily calories. Not only will you feel better during the day if you space your meals into many smaller meals, it is also a healthier approach.


What about nutrition?

Unfortunately the ABC diet does not focus on nutrition and focuses only on calories. While most people find the subject either boring or too complicated, it is highly recommended that you learn about the effect of protein, carbohydrates and fat on the body and the importance each of those play in a diet. Carbs and Fat have gotten a bad rap in mainstream media but they play an essential role, and when Protein and the right Carbs and the right Fat are consumed in moderation they work together to keep you feeling fuller longer and help to maintain a good weight.


Is the ABC Diet dangerous?

No diet that advocates such extreme calorie deprivation can be considered safe. Worse, the ABC diet doesn’t advocate good nutrition. So coupling the calorie restriction with potentially bad nutrition is not a good formula. So while the diet is effect in terms of weight loss, one needs to consider longer term implications.


If you're interested in the ABC diet, you should consider modifying to be less extreme. It is posted here in its original form, but you are strongly encouraged to modify it. Options you can do do include doing it for 1 week only (yes, you will lose weight) - 50 days is too long. Or, Increase the daily calorie intake. You can easily double this calorie intake and still lose weight. You may surprise yourself, you could even lose weight faster.


So what is the ABC Diet plan?

This is the diet schedule:

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What do I do when I finish it?

It is important to resume a normal, healthy diet. The biggest problem (besides the health effects) is that people often gain back the weight they shed. It is important to find the right balance in your lifestyle for you to maintain the weight you desire.


How can I track my progress?

You can track your actual calories consumed using a site or app like myfitnesspal.com. To keep track of your actual ABC Diet, you can use the log sheet attached to this post.


Are there bad side effects?

YES! We don't know who originally came up with this diet and we are putting it here in its original form. However, the diet is extreme and can be dangerous. The calorie deprivation is too extreme, there is no focus on nutrition and as a result, comes with risks. Add to this that a diet such as this can foster or trigger your Eating Disorder. We strongly recommend that you look at less extreme alternatives, learn about healthy eating and moderate diets. 


Why should I care about nutrition?

The ABC diet is not nutritious and this is problematic. Sustained malnutrition will lead to fatigue, hair falling out and even organ failure. 

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#3566886 Most Triggering Statement Ever Said To You?

Posted by weighED&drainED on 10 September 2014 - 09:43 PM


That's why it's disordered eating...The donut was less calories. ..
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