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#1 bythestreams

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 10:40 PM

I do it on purpose ... yet can't stop?

I purged for 8 years straight, often over 20 times a day (I was most often anorexia purging type), and now in recovery I don't purge ever really, but every time I eat I consciously aND purposely bring the food back up, rechew, and swallow for about an hour after I eat if not longer. **It stems from having been a hands-free purger for most of the 8 years I purged.** I can just purge on command whether sitting standing laying anything. It's terrible.

But now I'm recovering from anorexia and I just do this constantly. It's a conscious "choice" not an accident, but Im also having trouble quitting. It's like a really addicting habit.

I also have GERD and Gastroparesis, so that probably makes it a lot easier. But doing this for so long after a meal probably doesn't help my GP. But I'm struggling to stop even though I purposely do it. (I know that makes no sense). Oh and I don't purge anymore so I always reswallow (like I said for about an hour after eating).

Is this rumination disorder or just a really gross habit I have after so many years of purging??

The only way I can seem to not do it is if I take some kind of gross pill directly after eating. And I only take vitamins so it only helps me out once a day. But even then sometimes I'll put off taking the vitamins so I can do it... but yeah it is every time I eat...

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Posted 09 September 2015 - 05:07 AM

I do the exact same thing (deliberately regurgitating, re-chewing and swallowing after eating). I was also a hands-free purger for a long period of time. I also have stomach issues so that I think sometimes in the distant past I felt that this happened unintentionally, but then it became intentional. I am not sure. I am doing it right now. Do not know how to refer to it. 



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Posted 10 September 2015 - 01:39 PM

For me it's half controlled, half accidental. Sometimes I burp and suddenly liquid in my mouth, and I'm like "crap what am I supposed to do now". I have to find somewhere to spit it out, I very rarely swallow it again because I'm scared of the calories. But I know me trying to control it and deliberately trigger it is what made it get out of hand like this. I manipulated it into my own personal handfree method of vomiting.

 

If I want to purge, all I do is tighten my throat or stomach muscles and there it is. If it won't budge straight away then I use water (please don't do it anyone else, that's dangerous) to get it to move. Usually I know when it's about to come up because it feels like I'm about to have a gigantic burp but instead food comes up rather than having a burp.

 

So it is most of the time my choice whether or not I use my muscles to bring it up, but either way, it comes up, I just have to ignore it sometimes and that's hard.


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Posted 29 September 2015 - 07:18 AM

musicalfailure, same-same. It became hands-free purging. little by little the rejected calories add up :wub:

I feel sick and guilty that I enjoy it or "milk it"! I think years of coffee drinking, ATTEMPTING to purge, overfilling my stomach with food, and that anxious frantic I-must-nullify-what-I-just-consumed-feeling, tenseness of the abdomen, sometimes I have reflux triggers, like getting grossed out at the pig in the mirror, a song that makes me want to starve, something I'm thinking or what someone said, sometimes thinspo makes me tense and expel food. on more than one occasion, I walk by a really thin girl in the street or see someone jogging, I heave a large mouthful, I spit it off to the side or in a garbage can so no one steps on it.

 

it sucks when I'm in public and it has to be reswallowed if I have absolutely nowhere to spit it (I have no qualms about spitting it on the sidewalk, idgaf, people sometimes puke on the street), but indoors in public, I feel disgusting swallowing acidic food slop​ :unsure:



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Posted 24 October 2015 - 10:44 PM

I do it too, especially when drinking cold smoothies. IDK, I just enjoy it. I know it's damaging but... meh.


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Posted 23 December 2015 - 11:40 PM

I seriously was worried if I was the only person who did it on purpose sometimes...

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 12:32 AM

mine happens not on purpose and it sucks...I'll drink something to fast or swallow too hard and it triggers it...
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Posted 24 December 2015 - 07:49 AM

For me it's half controlled, half accidental. Sometimes I burp and suddenly liquid in my mouth, and I'm like "crap what am I supposed to do now". I have to find somewhere to spit it out, I very rarely swallow it again because I'm scared of the calories. But I know me trying to control it and deliberately trigger it is what made it get out of hand like this. I manipulated it into my own personal handfree method of vomiting.

 

If I want to purge, all I do is tighten my throat or stomach muscles and there it is. If it won't budge straight away then I use water (please don't do it anyone else, that's dangerous) to get it to move. Usually I know when it's about to come up because it feels like I'm about to have a gigantic burp but instead food comes up rather than having a burp.

 

So it is most of the time my choice whether or not I use my muscles to bring it up, but either way, it comes up, I just have to ignore it sometimes and that's hard.

This happens to me too. I chug water and then bend over. If nothing comes up after bending over once, then I jump up and down and bend over a few more times until something does. Sometimes though there is a delayed effect and I will end up sitting and all of the sudden have to throw up . Lately it's been purging into my hand on accident. 


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Posted 12 January 2016 - 05:06 AM

I don’t think it is rumination disorder. What did the doctor say about the condition?


 
 

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Posted 27 August 2016 - 09:29 AM

I'm diagnosed with rumination disorder, but for me personally it has nothing to do with regurgitation. I just chew up and spit out my food

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 05:12 AM

I didn't know this was a thing!! I do this all the time...and it is like a burp mixed with acid reflex...actually because of this I freak out about eating...so I just restrict to avoid this....


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Posted 25 October 2016 - 12:43 AM

I used to ruminate constantly! I'm also a hands-free purger, so there may be a connection there. I don't think I did it consciously the first few times it happened, but after that I started doing it just to prove I could bring food up at will...

 

I don't purge as often as I used to, so I don't experience the rumination as much. 


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Posted 25 October 2016 - 01:21 PM

Mine happens accidentally (although I can also do it on purpose, which is how I started purging...) I've always had it but never told anyone about it. 


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Posted 25 October 2016 - 10:06 PM

Mine happens accidentally (although I can also do it on purpose, which is how I started purging...) I've always had it but never told anyone about it.

I have the same problem


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Posted 02 November 2016 - 01:18 PM

i carry a 32oz gas station soda cup with me, so that if i do eat out, i will drink as much diet coke as possible and its coming up in the car before i'm even back on the road. missed it a few times...dropped it once. yay weathertech floor liners


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Posted 29 November 2016 - 01:28 PM

I do it on purpose ... yet can't stop?

I purged for 8 years straight, often over 20 times a day (I was most often anorexia purging type), and now in recovery I don't purge ever really, but every time I eat I consciously aND purposely bring the food back up, rechew, and swallow for about an hour after I eat if not longer. **It stems from having been a hands-free purger for most of the 8 years I purged.** I can just purge on command whether sitting standing laying anything. It's terrible.

But now I'm recovering from anorexia and I just do this constantly. It's a conscious "choice" not an accident, but Im also having trouble quitting. It's like a really addicting habit.

I also have GERD and Gastroparesis, so that probably makes it a lot easier. But doing this for so long after a meal probably doesn't help my GP. But I'm struggling to stop even though I purposely do it. (I know that makes no sense). Oh and I don't purge anymore so I always reswallow (like I said for about an hour after eating).

Is this rumination disorder or just a really gross habit I have after so many years of purging??

The only way I can seem to not do it is if I take some kind of gross pill directly after eating. And I only take vitamins so it only helps me out once a day. But even then sometimes I'll put off taking the vitamins so I can do it... but yeah it is every time I eat...

 

It isn't actually un-common for people who have purged to experience this. Rumination is caused by different things. At first it was just thought of as being related to infants and those with a special need/learning disability. Over the years it's become recognised as an issue with adults of normal IQ's as well as those with a history of eating disorders, in particular bulimia. 

 

I have an issue that is similar to rumination syndrome. I cannot keep food down. The amount of food I get rid of is mass amounts so I cannot re-chew it and swallow it. For nearly 2 years now I have had what I refer to as "in-voluntary bulimia" where I basically purge what I eat but do not force myself to do it. At first it started out and I would say I had some conscious control over it. I'd burp and food would come back up. Now it's caused issues with food staying in my stomach. Food causes me a lot of pain, it causes bloating to the extent I look several months pregnant and it also causes nausea. Although I can still to an extent control it (for example if I don't burp it won't come back up) I can't not do it as it's so painful.


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