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[portraitofabulimic]

Every time I search online about how much weight people have lost doing c/s they always say they either maintained or gained. I can't fathom that because "calories in/calories out" should obviously work here? People have said it causes them to binge but then it's not c/s that caused that, its the binge. If I'm missing something here, someone please enlighten me.

[Skinny_Be]

Yea it doesn’t make sense to me either. And the amount of calories that is actually swallowed or digested in the saliva is a super small amount. I think people use c/s in addition to whatever other disorder they have. So primarily they aren’t losing weight from just it. 🤷‍♀️ could be wrong but a lot of our problems are related in some way.

[bluesideblue]

I have no idea, the only way it seems possible if you're c/sing such a massive insane amount of food and the tiny bit that just naturally gets swallowed accidentally adds up to like thousands of calories a day lmao. That would be a HUGE volume of food and almost impossible tbh.

 

Or they're eating more outside times they c/s

[PekoPekoChouChou]

Yeah, no, I don't get it... I used to use c/s to curb my cravings for sugary sweet treats and I never gained from it. If people are binging from c/s then they ought to stop, only try it if you just crave the taste of something in particular, not food in general because having food in your mouth while feeling like that will lead to a binge. If you feel like you're going to binge then it's best to just remove yourself from the situation.

[Striving for memes]

Honestly, this might sound mean but like maybe they aren’t C/Sing correctly??
Like I don’t understand how you can possibly gain? Like unless you chew it until the point it’s like a liquid and accidentally drink half of it (that imagery is disgusting)
Like it should be impossible, your saliva doesn’t break down all your food and make you gain like people say. From experience I’ve always lost weight through this but somehow people say they gained.
Maybe also if they are eating like seasonings I think? Like salt on pretzels or anything salty. They may eat the salt and retain water but that’s the only 2 things I can think of.


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[a good sniff]

Honestly, this might sound mean but like maybe they aren’t C/Sing correctly??
Like I don’t understand how you can possibly gain? Like unless you chew it until the point it’s like a liquid and accidentally drink half of it (that imagery is disgusting)
Like it should be impossible, your saliva doesn’t break down all your food and make you gain like people say. From experience I’ve always lost weight through this but somehow people say they gained.
Maybe also if they are eating like seasonings I’m things? Like salt on pretzels or anything salty. They may eat the salt and retain water but that’s the only 2 things I can think of.


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right?? you can't gain weight from things you don't ingest. fat absorption happens in your liver and intestines, these are the furthest away from your mouth with regards to your digestive track... the only way you can gain is when you actually swallow parts of the food, it is as simple as that.

 

and wtf is this bs about the 'harm' of c/s???? your mouth is literally designed to chew food, i don't see how it is dangerous to spit it out?? i do this so often when i don't like the taste of something, or when i instantly regret eating something - how is this harmful???? it really bothers me there is no decent research on this, it's such a vague and intangible thing... 

[Striving for memes]

right?? you can't gain weight from things you don't ingest. fat absorption happens in your liver and intestines, these are the furthest away from your mouth with regards to your digestive track... the only way you can gain is when you actually swallow parts of the food, it is as simple as that.

and wtf is this bs about the 'harm' of c/s???? your mouth is literally designed to chew food, i don't see how it is dangerous to spit it out?? i do this so often when i don't like the taste of something, or when i instantly regret eating something - how is this harmful???? it really bothers me there is no decent research on this, it's such a vague and intangible thing...

I literally don’t understand how there is harms honestly like wtf? Like I’m just spitting it out? But like yeah you literally should be physically impossible to gain


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[light_angel]

To me this whole "if you don't eat you will gain" is a big urban myth. The same is true with c/s, it would actually be expected to lose weight instead of gain/maintaining because by chewing you force the metabolism to go faster since they understand there will be food coming down. In this case I strongly think that the weight gain comes exclusively from the binging.

[Chlorophyll]

I could have sworn I posted something in this thread when it was new....idk, I guess not.

 

I don't think anybody could possibly gain ONLY from c/s. People who engage in the practice don't c/s absolutely all of the food that enters their mouth, and maybe they just eat more than they think when they're around family & friends (and can't c/s?) I mean...there's gotta be several things at play there.

 

Also, while we're on the subject, I don't think c/s is dangerous for your mouth or health or whatever. It's been shown that chewing gum is actually good for oral health; why would it be different for food?

[light_angel]

 

Also, while we're on the subject, I don't think c/s is dangerous for your mouth or health or whatever. It's been shown that chewing gum is actually good for oral health; why would it be different for food?

I think so too. Maximum could be that it would worn the teeth more but only if the person chews way more then the daily average which is also not common and I find extremely unlikely. The only action that could have a hard effect on mouth/teeth/health would be purging, due to acid release and other reasons we already know.

[Frozen Grape]

Well if they're gaining weight then they're eating. End of. People who c/s obviously do eat in between episodes, and most likely binge. C/s, exercise addiction and purging don't automatically = weight loss because you can still overeat in between. 

[ItsBoshyTime]

They either suck at cs and swallowed the whole thing or they chose crappy cs foods like peanut butter or chocolate

[extrasmoothtoiletpaper]

They either suck at cs and swallowed the whole thing or they chose crappy cs foods like peanut butter or chocolate

Came here to say this

 

They're probably spitting out the chunks of food and swallowing the saliva which is still full of calories. Especially if they're doing like ice cream and shit that stuff goes straight down your throat if you don't know the proper *technique*. And they don't rinse. And because a lot of people use this to replace bingeing they might be actually bingeing more because it can increase your appetite. A lot of people say it brings on binges. For me it does the opposite. I am actually fully sick of junk food after a long week of c/s.

[koiko]

C/s makes your stomach produce acids as it is expecting to receive food. But since you don’t swallow it, the acid eats the stomach itself. That’s the danger on it

This can cause severe pain and bloating which is where the gain probably comes from

It also can slow your metabolism so when you do eat normally you store more fat

[extrasmoothtoiletpaper]

C/s makes your stomach produce acids as it is expecting to receive food. But since you don’t swallow it, the acid eats the stomach itself. That’s the danger on it

This can cause severe pain and bloating which is where the gain probably comes from

It also can slow your metabolism so when you do eat normally you store more fat

Uh source??? Lmao this is complete bullshit. If you're talking about starvation mode i.e. only taking calories in through c/s instead of eating, that's another topic entirely. C/S in itself does nothing to your metabolism whatsoever.

 

Your stomach only "eats itself" (also incorrect) when there's no food in it already. If you c/s with food in your stomach that you ate 2-3 hours ago it's not going to affect you. In fact it will just produce more digestive enzymes and could actually help digest your food (not that I'm promoting it at all).

[koiko]

Uh source??? Lmao this is complete bullshit. If you're talking about starvation mode i.e. only taking calories in through c/s instead of eating, that's another topic entirely. C/S in itself does nothing to your metabolism whatsoever.

 

Your stomach only "eats itself" (also incorrect) when there's no food in it already. If you c/s with food in your stomach that you ate 2-3 hours ago it's not going to affect you. In fact it will just produce more digestive enzymes and could actually help digest your food (not that I'm promoting it at all).

 

source: I'm a nurse

 

Not everyone will c/s with food in their stomach. I personally only do it when fasting. And even if there is a little food, it is still dangerous. Your stomach still is producing excess acid and getting no food

 

And when you start chewing your body starts releasing hormones such as insulin to prepare to absorb the food. Having this habit can make you resistant to these hormones or make your body not know if they should be making them or not, and slow your metabolism

[extrasmoothtoiletpaper]

source: I'm a nurse

 

Not everyone will c/s with food in their stomach. I

That's not a source. I'm a nurse too.

[extrasmoothtoiletpaper]

source: I'm a nurse

 

Not everyone will c/s with food in their stomach. I personally only do it when fasting. And even if there is a little food, it is still dangerous. Your stomach still is producing excess acid and getting no food

 

And when you start chewing your body starts releasing hormones such as insulin to prepare to absorb the food. Having this habit can make you resistant to these hormones or make your body not know if they should be making them or not, and slow your metabolism

Since you edited your comment I will elaborate. Insulin is released as soon as you SMELL food. It does not slow your metabolism. It makes it difficult to burn fat, but there is no mechanism by which insulin actually slows down your metabolism. Aside from that fact, research has shown the insulin released during a c/s session is negligible.

[Foxii_Fighter]

Uh source??? Lmao this is complete bullshit. If you're talking about starvation mode i.e. only taking calories in through c/s instead of eating, that's another topic entirely. C/S in itself does nothing to your metabolism whatsoever.

 

Your stomach only "eats itself" (also incorrect) when there's no food in it already. If you c/s with food in your stomach that you ate 2-3 hours ago it's not going to affect you. In fact it will just produce more digestive enzymes and could actually help digest your food (not that I'm promoting it at all).

 

The cephalic phase: Thirty percent of the total gastric acid secretions to be produced is stimulated by anticipation of eating and the smell or taste of food. This signalling occurs from higher centres in the brain through the vagus nerve (Cranial Nerve X). It activates parietal cells to release acid and ECL cells to release histamine. The vagus nerve (CN X) also releases gastrin releasing peptide onto G cells. Finally, it also inhibits somatostatin release from D cells.^[5]

 

 Lecture, "Function of the Stomach and Small Intestine" Deakin University School of Medicine. October 15, 2012

 

The first line of what she said is not wrong. The other parts however, are wrong. 

 

I conducted a study on myself with C&S - I ate about 1000 calories a day for about 2 weeks, and I C&Sed food worth about 2000 cals each day (yes, I am insanely in debt). Exercise was consistent, burning 200-300 a day. 

 

The first week, I simply chewed and spit each bite. I gained weight.

 

The next week, I chewed, spit, spit again, rinsed with water..on every single bite. I did not gain weight that week.

 

So...maybe not the most scientific experiment. But enough for me to realize that people REALLY underestimate the amount they swallow when doing this...

[oujisama]

It's indirect, so like you said OP, it's the binging or simply overeating triggered by c/sing for some people, not the c/sing directly (it just leads them to do what ACTUALLY causes weight gain, which is simply eating too many calories). Digestion starts in the mouth, but not the absorbing nutrients part; stuff just starts breaking down and can lead to an insulin response, so once their insuling drops after the c/s session, that person might feel hungry and c/s more or eat. If they eat in reaction to that on top of eating throughout the day, it'd be really easy to go into a surplus.

For someone in a deficit, you'd have to c/s an insane volume of food to gain (OR very liquidy or primarily fat foods.) The only way I could see it happening is if someone was swishing olive oil around their mouth like mouthwash and spitting out, multiple times. In that case then they'd definitely be able to get to a surplus but 1. not judging but I highly doubt anyone would want to do that 2. If anyone tried it, I doubt they'd do it again or so many times they'd gain from the residual oil.

Edit: remembered that PB and nutella are popular binge foods and wanted to add that... considering those do liquify very quickly from body heat so a lot of calories could be taken in if c/sed in copious quantities. Personally, I wouldn't want to risk it, though, and just eat a tiny amount or a low-cal alternative for those.