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#1 Snootboot

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Posted 16 April 2021 - 10:00 AM

Okay so i'm working my way through all the eating disorder documentries on youtube and I had to talk about this one because it made me so angry. 

 

The truth about online anorexia - by Fearne Cotton

"Fearne Cotton examines the ongoing trend for super-slim women and

immerses herself in the worrying world of pro-ana websites who
encourage anorexia and starvation as a life choice.

As Fearne explores the diet and exercise regime of a pro-ana, shell
try some of the extreme regimes that they endorse and meet other girls
whove embraced the same lifestyle. She will explore the seductive
nature of these support groups, examine the world of competitive
dieting, and look at relationships that ordinary women have with each
other when it comes to diet and body image."

The premise is she investigates pro ana sites, tries a diet to... idk relate to an anorexic? and then talks to a family and a sufferer of anorexia (because god forbid she speaks to someone with an ed that isn't anorexia). 

 

So this was released a while ago and obviously the "pro ana" scene has changed dramtically since the early 2000's and it's not full of those blogger sites with tips anymore. However I hate how judgy she is. She labels us all as ridiculous toxic people that just want to lure people in. She acts like we think of it as a lifestyle choice and granted some people did back in the day but the research in all of these documentaries when it comes to pro ana sites is so surface level!! WE ARE NOT ALL LIKE THAT! and if they did proper research they would know this. Any bashing of these websites make me so angry. The people are always stuck up journalists who will never understand how lonely it is to suffer with an eating disorder. I am always in favour of mpa because we're able to talk to people who understand what it's like to be stuck in this illness and not ready for recovery. I do think if you want to recover it's not the best place to be but if you're still struggling nd you're not ready then this is a welcoming place - and that's what you never see in these docs. 

 

She then goes on to try the rainbow diet. I don't get what she was trying to accomplish with this. She wanted to immerse herself into what it's like to be anorexic? How about you just stick to talking to people with different eating disorders instead to get an idea. Again all these women seem to think eating disorders are just anorexia and bulimia and all it is is a bunch of girls going on crash diets, getting to thin and bam we're all delusional and sick and need to recover and as soon as we gain weight we're fine. They all focus on the aspect of dieting and the media when in reality it's none of that. It's people - not just women, trying to gain control back in their lives and they do it by restricting/binging/purging. Anyone who has researched eds knows you're surpressing your emotions and instead of dealing with them you turn to these behaviours. But again here is another journalist trying to paint us as all young, delusional females obsessed with kate moss. Which again - maybe that was the case with some people back in the day but ffs do more research. 

 

What really irritated me was she didn't even stick to the diet for one fucking day! I know that's not the point and it's not healthy for her to do so anyway but ffs it just shows lack of care and effort . She claims she wasn't doing it to lose weight but we now know that fearne has come out and said she suffers with bulimia so I wonder how pure her intentions were trying to do the diet.

 

The way she tries out the tips and laughs at how ridiculous they were also really irritated me. Yes they are stupid and damaging and we should all be choosing the burger instead of making thinspo collages or chewing ice but ffs WE ARE ILL! what don't these morons get about that? We're poorly ffs we didn't ask for you to come on our websites and start judging and laughing at us. Maybe this is just me being over sensitive but it felt like she was laughing at our entire community and it pissed me off. She also speaks to a bunch of kids and it is sad because they're all so young and they all wanted to lose weight however - is it really a good idea to talk to a bunch of kids about their bodies and calories and pro ana? if they never heard of all of that well they have now well done! 

 

The rest of the documentary is fine, she talks to a grieving mom who lost her child to anoreixa and also talks to a recovered anorexic. But where is the diversity? no where to be seen in this doc. Watch it and give me your thoughts, let me know if you think its insensitive and bullshit or if i'm being too sensitive!


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Posted 16 April 2021 - 10:02 AM

I've never clicked on a title so fast in my life.

 

Gonna try the rainbow diet lol


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Posted 16 April 2021 - 10:04 AM

I've watched it before. It's horrible. What really ticked me off was how she spent, like, two days eating slightly less than she normally would, and complained every step of the way, like it was some big deal.
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I have before - I will again.

 

The scale doesn't lie - people do

 

HW: 123

LW: 99

CW: 120

GW1: 110

GW2: 105

GW3: 99

GW4: 95

UGW: 88 / 85

 

​There's a room inside your gut

​Close the door and keep it shut

​Let no daylight enter in

And the punishment begin

 

Emptiness is pure. Starvation is the cure.


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Posted 16 April 2021 - 10:20 AM

The people are always stuck up journalists who will never understand how lonely it is to suffer with an eating disorder. I am always in favour of mpa because we're able to talk to people who understand what it's like to be stuck in this illness and not ready for recovery. I do think if you want to recover it's not the best place to be but if you're still struggling nd you're not ready then this is a welcoming place - and that's what you never see in these docs.

I watched this documentary recently among with other documentaries and this point is never properly addressed. Now, I understand why they don't do it, they don't want these kinds of forums to seem like nice places. They don't want children to go on these websites thinking it's a welcoming happy community to support you with having/developing an eating disorder, if you're not already suffering from one. And I mean there's definitely some who don't even consider the possibility of something good coming out of these places, because they can't understand it, like you said.

 

In a way I condone this, I believe proana forums have already given a start to enough people's EDs, who have stumbled upon triggering content and naively 'tried it out'. (Obviously these people could've been triggered by something else eventually since they'd have a predisposition to EDs but anyway.) But I also stand by these forums because I'd be completely alone without MPA. I need this place for reassurance and support when I'm going through shit that I can't share with anyone else. It's kind of a double-edged sword. On one hand, if these forums didn't exist maybe people would be more encouraged to recover. But on the other, there will always be people who won't recover, don't want to or can't, whether these forums exist or not, and who feel desperately alone. And the problem with not showing this side of 'proana' forums is that the documentaries often, as you said, make us seem like soulless evil demons who lure people in and give children anorexia.

 

It's complicated, like ED documentaries anyway. There's the constant struggle of what can and can't be shown. People without EDs want and need to se what the disorder can do to a person, but unfortunately that can be used as major trigger material by actually disordered people. And as the audience can't be exactly selected to exclude those with EDs, the balance is difficult to strike. I've been thinking a lot of what kind of documentary I'd make about eating disorders, but I keep running into the same problems. Maybe the whole MPA should get together and write a comprehensive, never before seen ED documentary series. Or maybe not, that would be chaotic af.


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Posted 16 April 2021 - 10:23 AM

not the rainbow diet-


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Posted 17 April 2021 - 07:38 AM

I watched this documentary recently among with other documentaries and this point is never properly addressed. Now, I understand why they don't do it, they don't want these kinds of forums to seem like nice places. They don't want children to go on these websites thinking it's a welcoming happy community to support you with having/developing an eating disorder, if you're not already suffering from one. And I mean there's definitely some who don't even consider the possibility of something good coming out of these places, because they can't understand it, like you said.

 

In a way I condone this, I believe proana forums have already given a start to enough people's EDs, who have stumbled upon triggering content and naively 'tried it out'. (Obviously these people could've been triggered by something else eventually since they'd have a predisposition to EDs but anyway.) But I also stand by these forums because I'd be completely alone without MPA. I need this place for reassurance and support when I'm going through shit that I can't share with anyone else. It's kind of a double-edged sword. On one hand, if these forums didn't exist maybe people would be more encouraged to recover. But on the other, there will always be people who won't recover, don't want to or can't, whether these forums exist or not, and who feel desperately alone. And the problem with not showing this side of 'proana' forums is that the documentaries often, as you said, make us seem like soulless evil demons who lure people in and give children anorexia.

 

It's complicated, like ED documentaries anyway. There's the constant struggle of what can and can't be shown. People without EDs want and need to se what the disorder can do to a person, but unfortunately that can be used as major trigger material by actually disordered people. And as the audience can't be exactly selected to exclude those with EDs, the balance is difficult to strike. I've been thinking a lot of what kind of documentary I'd make about eating disorders, but I keep running into the same problems. Maybe the whole MPA should get together and write a comprehensive, never before seen ED documentary series. Or maybe not, that would be chaotic af.

It is so complicated and really difficult to make these documentaries I agree. I actually do give credit to the people that make any ed doc because it's hard - you want to raise awareness about whats out there but you also don't want to subconsciously trigger a bunch of people who never would have known about pro ana had it not been for the documentary. But like you said, I think most, if not all people who suffer with an ed would always suffer with it without any pro anorexia forums. I mean the romans were out here bping before us lot! 

 

and if we all made a documentary omg it would be chaos XD 


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Posted 17 April 2021 - 07:38 AM

not the rainbow diet-

she also did the 2468 diet. Surprised she didn't do the classic abc 


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Posted 17 April 2021 - 04:01 PM

"Best documentary 2017".

 

Ha.


I have before - I will again.

 

The scale doesn't lie - people do

 

HW: 123

LW: 99

CW: 120

GW1: 110

GW2: 105

GW3: 99

GW4: 95

UGW: 88 / 85

 

​There's a room inside your gut

​Close the door and keep it shut

​Let no daylight enter in

And the punishment begin

 

Emptiness is pure. Starvation is the cure.


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Posted 18 April 2021 - 11:53 AM

I find it interesting that Ferne cotton has recently came out and said she was bulimic


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Posted 22 April 2021 - 06:04 PM

ngl i do appreciate that they actually talked about reasons not to ban them



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Posted 22 April 2021 - 06:44 PM

I find it interesting that Ferne cotton has recently came out and said she was bulimic


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Especially for someone who seemed to have beyond zero idea what she was talking about. . .


I have before - I will again.

 

The scale doesn't lie - people do

 

HW: 123

LW: 99

CW: 120

GW1: 110

GW2: 105

GW3: 99

GW4: 95

UGW: 88 / 85

 

​There's a room inside your gut

​Close the door and keep it shut

​Let no daylight enter in

And the punishment begin

 

Emptiness is pure. Starvation is the cure.


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Posted 24 May 2021 - 01:19 PM

The thing I find the most infuriating is how they focus so much on how this is bad for young girls rather than young people as if no boys could possibly have an ED or body image issues.


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Posted 24 May 2021 - 09:58 PM

Do I need to watch this just to annoy myself. I'm feeling like maybe I do  :wacko:


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Posted 28 May 2021 - 12:29 AM

The worse documentary. I remember watching it when it first aired on BBC.
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Posted 01 June 2021 - 06:00 AM

It is so complicated and really difficult to make these documentaries I agree. I actually do give credit to the people that make any ed doc because it's hard - you want to raise awareness about whats out there but you also don't want to subconsciously trigger a bunch of people who never would have known about pro ana had it not been for the documentary. But like you said, I think most, if not all people who suffer with an ed would always suffer with it without any pro anorexia forums. I mean the romans were out here bping before us lot!

and if we all made a documentary omg it would be chaos XD


But wait
One of the official languages of the Roman Empire was Latin
Forum in Latin means outdoors
So if they were to organise such a feast outdoors... Wouldn't that be a pro-ED forum?





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Posted Yesterday, 05:50 AM

Awful. Great triggering material

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Posted Yesterday, 07:32 AM

I've watched it before. It's horrible. What really ticked me off was how she spent, like, two days eating slightly less than she normally would, and complained every step of the way, like it was some big deal.

Reminds me of some video on the Onion of the "don't eat for a minute" diet. I forget the title and I'm too lazy to look it up now lol.





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