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#21 Pandoras-Box

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 09:04 AM

Fat Liberation, Fat Acceptance, Body Positive -- these ideals are sneaking into recovery literature and stating that all Ed's are directly rooted in fatphobia...so you have to admit you are fatphobic to truly "heal"

 

Thanx. I'm all for body positivity, and loving your bod weather you a size 2 or 22 yet that sounds insane....


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 09:43 AM

yeah there's been this thing in body posi online spaces lately, making all eating disorders seem like we are focused on fat people's bodies and nothing else lol

 

Exactly! I'm tired of the body positivity people making everything about themselves. Like...no one is that obsessed with you. Sorry.


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 10:59 AM

My eating disorder started with trauma from my house fire, grief from my grandma dying of cancer, and stress from trying to find a job. My goal weights were my weights from childhood: 9th grade, 8th grade, 7th grade, 6th grade, then I’m not valid until I hit BMI 13. None of it had anything to do with fatphobia. Also I’m not afraid of becoming fat because I know it will never happen. I’m afraid of being medium size.
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Posted 29 May 2021 - 11:16 AM

Fat activists feel the need to center themselves in everything. They don't understand that we can hate ourselves and not really think anything about them. They pretend they suffer from the same exact disease we do because they want their voices to be louder than ours.

 

I'm sorry, but too many fat acceptance people really despise people with EDs, instead of having sympathy for us. They pretend to care about mental health and then they treat us like monsters. I'm tired of it.

 

We're victims of the same hateful, thin obsessed culture they are. The difference is we're apparently garbage for not being able to handle it as well as they can.


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 11:17 AM

Tbh I think some of it is an excuse to encourage another ed. by saying that they've renounced fatphobia they can ignore their own bed.

Not saying I'm healthy, but neither are they
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Posted 29 May 2021 - 11:33 AM

I'm sorry, shows like My 600 Pound Life exist to entertain normal people. The Biggest Loser is essentially 'turn exercise and diet into torture because the participants deserve it and they're cleansing themselves of their egregious sins'... we might be fucked up in the head but our reactions are self destructive and deadly, a mental illness. I can't imagine anything worse than being of a healthy mind and a piece of trash because, sans disorder- you're offended someone else lives their existence differently. I'm sure working till you're old enough to get abused in a nursing home is a goal everyone should aim for- we've just had a pandemic illuminate the generation that ate right, exercised and were all the right size got rewarded for it with a nursing home, sitting ducks for abuse and illnesses. 

 

Picking on people with eating disorders really won't solve medical bias or any of the issues afflicting larger people. You're just victimizing a group across the eating disorder spectrum who have to deal with stone age mentalities and higher suicide rates. It doesn't make you look good- it just makes you trash.

 

 

Tbh I think some of it is an excuse to encourage another ed. by saying that they've renounced fatphobia they can ignore their own bed.

Not saying I'm healthy, but neither are they

 

Most people with larger bodies don't have BED or an eating disorder. I hate the fact normal people would rather make BED look voluntary than admit most people are in full control.


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 11:36 AM

Hmm I don't necessarily agree...

In my mind, being scared of being fat and treating fat people badly are two separate things. You can want to lose weight and still respect people who are fat because most of our desires to lose weight are rooted in society's wild beauty expectations, not hatred for fat people. 


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 11:49 AM

ugh, it's so fucking dumb. I hate myself for being fat - I could not give less of a shit what other people look like and I think that the treatment of fat people in society is disgusting (and this includes shit like fatspo). Honestly, saying that EDs are fatphobic because not wanting to be fat is fatphobic is like saying that being happy that you can walk on two legs without a cane/wheelchair is ableist.


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 12:59 PM

how is it that the fatties are offended by a mental illness... they make everything abt them i stg.

im not fatphobic. only fatphobic to myself because i will never allow myself to be fat again. but i respect fat people except when theyre like fat activists because that is the dumbest shit ive ever heard. if ur fat ur unhealthy and if u think otherwise ur delusional and in denial. its all the fast food, processed meat and high fructose corn syrup people consume- makes me sick to even think about it.

i just think if fat people spent the time they do preaching fat acceptance in the gym they could actually not be fat.


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 01:16 PM

Recovery CAN be admitting to fatphobia but that's only if you're actually yk? fatphobic. So don't feel bad if it's not you. I feel like half of the people saying that are bringing up the fact that a lot of eds are rooted in fatphobia but NOT because of the mental illness itself. They're talking about when the actual societal problem is what leads someone to have an ed (ie getting bullied or something). The other half are people who can't comprehend and twist everyone's issues, making everyone a “bad guy.” Tiktok is full of kids tho and they don't really understand the full extent of what they're consuming sometimes. The app is literally for 12 year olds. But I mean, if you ARE fatphobic and then yeah you obviously can't recover fully without addressing your issues. Or else you wouldn’t even really be recovering.

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:07 PM

yeah, there's a massive difference between 'I hate fat people' and 'I have an ED because of the treatment I received due to my weight'


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:31 PM

So ridiculous! I was called “fatphobic” because I said I was afraid to gain weight.  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes: And kicked off a website called Beating Eating Disorders. The thing is, I was accused of hating fat people. This is not true! I don’t like or dislike people due to their weight. 


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 02:38 PM

They are the same people that call fatphobic whoever want to lose weight for healthy reasons bc then "hOw Do yOu tHiNk i fEeL wHEn yOu SaY tHat yOu dOnT WaNt tO bE LiKe mE"

Bruh.

Also please, for the love of god, can someone recognize that there other eating disorders that can make you fat. HAES out there acting like anorexia its the only ED that exist.
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Posted 29 May 2021 - 03:48 PM

I don't think all ED sufferers are fat phobic, and fatphobia is not the root cause of an eating disorder HOWEVER fat phobia can definitely onset an ED.

for example, if you have a parent who is heavily against fat people, criticizes them in front of you, tells you not to be fat, controls your diet so you won't get fat, and treats fat people poorly in front of you during developmental years, you will have an increased chance of developing an ED AND you will have to unlearn these behaviors. Because your formative years are now laced with fatphobic ideas. And thus, just like a child raised in a bigoted household will be bigoted, a child raised in a fat phobic household will be fatphobic unless that intentionally break that chain of discrimination.

I also think fatphobia is RAMPANT in ED spaces. Things like discussing other overweight influences negatively, praising influencers on losing weight, or talking about how much they hate fat people when they say they're hungry. ED spaces are notorious for shunning fat people and judging them openly. Just consider reverse thinspo for a second. We all have internalized hatred of our bodies, and for a lot of us that can include a hatred of and fear of fatness. Or whatever we define as fatness. I don't think acknowledging and dismantling ones fat phobia will cure an eating disorder in any capacity, but I do think that it's important to take a hard look at how you feel about and treat fat people, to their face or not.

body positivity is not "let yourself become 300 stone and don't listen to doctors ever!!1!" It's "every human being is deserving of respect and dignity regardless of their size or food choices". And the reality is that overweight and fat people are not given the same respect and treatment as average and thin people. And that is incredibly prevalent in ED spaces, especially amoung the older crowd.

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 03:57 PM



its all the fast food, processed meat and high fructose corn syrup people consume- makes me sick to even think about it.
i just think if fat people spent the time they do preaching fat acceptance in the gym they could actually not be fat.


For a lot of people, processed food is the only option. Low income people have a lot less options when it comes to feeding themselves and their families. When given 5 dollars, they can either chose to make a salad that will feed them MAYBE for one dinner OR 5 one dollar meals that may be processed but will ensure that no one is hungry. Sure some people can afford to eat "better", but a lot of fat people cannot.

As for high fructose- corn is a MAJOR subsidized crop in the US. It's almost impossible to avoid corn syrup or corn byproducts. Almost everything not fresh has corn or high fructose in it.

And for your last point about fat people going to the gym- what if they can't afford a gym membership? What if they're too busy working to work out? What of they're disabled and cannot work out or risk injuring themselves or exaughsting themselves beyond the point of being able to do daily tasks?

The fact of the matter is that fat people deserve respect, not to be called "fatties". Fat people want to be RESPECTED. That's all. They don't want everyone to be fat. And for a lot of fat people, especially in America, healthy living is not a choice. They can't afford it or don't have the time. Minimum wage is too low and living costs are too high for them to focus on reaching the ideal lifestyle- they're just trying to make it through the day.

There are more societal factors to weight than just "they're lazy".

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 04:05 PM


For a lot of people, processed food is the only option. Low income people have a lot less options when it comes to feeding themselves and their families. When given 5 dollars, they can either chose to make a salad that will feed them MAYBE for one dinner OR 5 one dollar meals that may be processed but will ensure that no one is hungry. Sure some people can afford to eat "better", but a lot of fat people cannot.

As for high fructose- corn is a MAJOR subsidized crop in the US. It's almost impossible to avoid corn syrup or corn byproducts. Almost everything not fresh has corn or high fructose in it.

And for your last point about fat people going to the gym- what if they can't afford a gym membership? What if they're too busy working to work out? What of they're disabled and cannot work out or risk injuring themselves or exaughsting themselves beyond the point of being able to do daily tasks?

The fact of the matter is that fat people deserve respect, not to be called "fatties". Fat people want to be RESPECTED. That's all. They don't want everyone to be fat. And for a lot of fat people, especially in America, healthy living is not a choice. They can't afford it or don't have the time. Minimum wage is too low and living costs are too high for them to focus on reaching the ideal lifestyle- they're just trying to make it through the day.

There are more societal factors to weight than just "they're lazy".

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this is everything i wanted to say but couldn’t be bothered to type out, so thank you. not everybody is privileged enough to be able to afford healthy produce as it’s often a lot more expensive than processed food
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Posted 29 May 2021 - 04:06 PM

how is it that the fatties are offended by a mental illness... they make everything abt them i stg.

im not fatphobic. only fatphobic to myself because i will never allow myself to be fat again. but i respect fat people except when theyre like fat activists because that is the dumbest shit ive ever heard. if ur fat ur unhealthy and if u think otherwise ur delusional and in denial. its all the fast food, processed meat and high fructose corn syrup people consume- makes me sick to even think about it.

i just think if fat people spent the time they do preaching fat acceptance in the gym they could actually not be fat.

tbh this kinda comes off as being a dick for no reason


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 04:07 PM

tbh this kinda comes off as being a dick for no reason

like a lot of ppl with eds are fat or started fat as well. but you probably wouldn't congratulate us for having an ed because we're not fat anymore


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Posted 29 May 2021 - 04:16 PM

Fat activists feel the need to center themselves in everything. They don't understand that we can hate ourselves and not really think anything about them. They pretend they suffer from the same exact disease we do because they want their voices to be louder than ours.

 

I'm sorry, but too many fat acceptance people really despise people with EDs, instead of having sympathy for us. They pretend to care about mental health and then they treat us like monsters. I'm tired of it.

 

We're victims of the same hateful, thin obsessed culture they are. The difference is we're apparently garbage for not being able to handle it as well as they can.

Well at least it’s possible they’ll have the gravitational pull to make themselves the center of everything. 

 

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Posted 29 May 2021 - 06:12 PM

For a lot of people, processed food is the only option. Low income people have a lot less options when it comes to feeding themselves and their families. When given 5 dollars, they can either chose to make a salad that will feed them MAYBE for one dinner OR 5 one dollar meals that may be processed but will ensure that no one is hungry. Sure some people can afford to eat "better", but a lot of fat people cannot.

As for high fructose- corn is a MAJOR subsidized crop in the US. It's almost impossible to avoid corn syrup or corn byproducts. Almost everything not fresh has corn or high fructose in it.

And for your last point about fat people going to the gym- what if they can't afford a gym membership? What if they're too busy working to work out? What of they're disabled and cannot work out or risk injuring themselves or exaughsting themselves beyond the point of being able to do daily tasks?

The fact of the matter is that fat people deserve respect, not to be called "fatties". Fat people want to be RESPECTED. That's all. They don't want everyone to be fat. And for a lot of fat people, especially in America, healthy living is not a choice. They can't afford it or don't have the time. Minimum wage is too low and living costs are too high for them to focus on reaching the ideal lifestyle- they're just trying to make it through the day.

There are more societal factors to weight than just "they're lazy".

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ok honestly im not sure why ur on this website but were gonna ignore that lmao. people ate before processed foods. u can still eat fairly healthy without a ton of money. rice, beans, grilled chicken, legumes, a pound of fruit literally costs $3.94. all excuses if u want easy ur gonna get the outcome of being fat. not everyone is skinny because not everyone wants to go the extra mile. being aware of high fructose corn syrup and how it has brought on obesity is important. just dont buy processed foods its not very difficult i dont. planet fitness memberships are $10 a month and yes ik they deserve respect but they spread misinformation like "fat is healthy", "wanting to lose weight is fatphobic" and its honestly just delusional.


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