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#21 cattime

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Posted 16 July 2021 - 05:27 AM

Sudden death happens as a consequence from an ED because the ED has an impact on the body. Your doctor presumably knows your body's health status. If he said that to you, then I would believe it. Believe it because no sane doctor would tell such a horrible thing if he didn't mean it, especially since he's an expert and knows your health status as it is.



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Posted 16 July 2021 - 03:16 PM

Your doctors right. Especially if you’re purging or mot eating whole foods. You’ll get an electrolyte deficiency and you’ll slip into a coma while you sleep. But if you gain weight now you’ll probably not have any irreparable damage done to your bodyn=

man i'm not even underweight and this comment singlehandedly made me want to raise my intake. thank you


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Posted 19 July 2021 - 11:55 PM

Weight is a risk factor.

However, you can drop dead from ED consequences at any weight.

I've have my heart stop (sudden cardiac arrest) at BMI 14 and BMI 23.

Do what you can to reduce harm. Be careful.
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Posted 20 July 2021 - 12:01 AM

I don't know ... I've been at bmi 15.8 for a while and felt more alive than ever - but also more weak than ever. (I am on forced recovery now though..)

Bmi 15.0 can't be that much worse, but I am no doctor and this might just be wishful thinking.

 

But I would say that 15 is dangerous. But any bmi can be dangerous. And you can suddenly die at any bmi if you starve too much.


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Posted 20 July 2021 - 12:45 AM

I don't know ... I've been at bmi 15.8 for a while and felt more alive than ever - but also more weak than ever. (I am on forced recovery now though..)
Bmi 15.0 can't be that much worse, but I am no doctor and this might just be wishful thinking.

But I would say that 15 is dangerous. But any bmi can be dangerous. And you can suddenly die at any bmi if you starve too much.


Honestly, it’s sometimes the straw that breaks the camel’s back. At some point a line must be drawn somewhere and you must consider whether you think it’s worth crossing. Personally, I can’t bring myself to want to go below 15 because my body works for the most part now with my only complication being no period. I’m not a very religious person but I sometimes thought of how it would feel to have a sudden death. Would I just be reading my book, blink, and then suddenly I see demons dragging me to hell or something lol. Personally I usually lean towards nothing happening afterwards but I hope reincarnation is true.


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Posted 20 July 2021 - 01:36 AM

Honestly, it’s sometimes the straw that breaks the camel’s back. At some point a line must be drawn somewhere and you must consider whether you think it’s worth crossing. Personally, I can’t bring myself to want to go below 15 because my body works for the most part now with my only complication being no period. I’m not a very religious person but I sometimes thought of how it would feel to have a sudden death. Would I just be reading my book, blink, and then suddenly I see demons dragging me to hell or something lol. Personally I usually lean towards nothing happening afterwards but I hope reincarnation is true.


Shook me up. Damn. This is what the docs should be saying.

OP - No matter how fine and dandy you feel, you have to remember you are still very underweight putting your body in a fragile state. I am glad you are getting labs done.

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Posted 20 July 2021 - 12:30 PM

BMIs around 15 or less are considered immediate risk to life, so yes, you could actually just drop dead any time.  Heart failure is the second most common cause of death in EDs, after suicide, but other organs can fail, brain damage can happen, sometimes even if you manage to recover and weight restore you're left with permanent damage.

 

But: the longer you stay at a low BMI the more silent damage you're accumulating.  So if you can work with those helping you and get your weight back up some, sooner rather than later, that will give you the best chance of coming out of it relatively unscathed.



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Posted 20 July 2021 - 01:42 PM

Under 15 is considered extreme according to the BMI criteria…so I guess so


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Posted 20 July 2021 - 01:44 PM

Weight is a risk factor.

However, you can drop dead from ED consequences at any weight.

I've have my heart stop (sudden cardiac arrest) at BMI 14 and BMI 23.

Do what you can to reduce harm. Be careful.


If you’ve been at a lower weight before you can definitely damage yourself and have cardiac arrest later on. Every time you lose again the stakes are higher.

Did you figure out the root cause of your cardiac arrest?


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Posted 20 July 2021 - 03:38 PM

Yes.
100 times yes.
You're in serious danger.
In my personal experience when I was BMI 19 anorexia fucking sucks, and wants to kill us all.

I am a survivor of sudden cardiac arrest.
That shit is no joke.
I legitimately felt perfectly fine.
Was having a wonderful normal day cosplaying, playing video games, ect.
Then in two seconds I was just gone.
My heart gave out, and I was so lucky that I was not at home alone for a change.


This just shook me to my core. I’m so sorry that that happened to you. And I’m so glad you had someone with you and thus are still with us!! At a BMI of 19 as well which is where I’m hovering atm. :,( Did you lose the weight fast? Sorry if it’s insensitive to ask, my heart just really felt your post. Xx

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Posted 20 July 2021 - 03:48 PM

my bmi is almost down to 15 and I'm already feeling a little "funny"... I don't think its my heart though 

by sudden death do they mean your heart will stop suddenly?


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Posted 20 July 2021 - 05:57 PM

If you’ve been at a lower weight before you can definitely damage yourself and have cardiac arrest later on. Every time you lose again the stakes are higher.

Did you figure out the root cause of your cardiac arrest?


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The first happened happened when I was refeeding from my lw and even being hospitalized and with medical monitoring my body went haywire.

The second was when I was in a b/p cycle and I fucked my electrolytes. That was much scarier. I had only been relapsing for around two weeks.

I still have a problem with my mitral valve not closing properly (prolapse/regurgitation). I've also got EDS (a soft tissue disorder) which predisposes me to issues, as well.
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Posted 20 July 2021 - 11:41 PM

This just shook me to my core. I’m so sorry that that happened to you. And I’m so glad you had someone with you and thus are still with us!! At a BMI of 19 as well which is where I’m hovering atm. :,( Did you lose the weight fast? Sorry if it’s insensitive to ask, my heart just really felt your post. Xx


Oh it's not insensitive to ask at all. You're totally fine no need to apologize.
The weight loss was actually not at all quick it took about 10-12 months of mid- restriction (800-1,000 cals), daily excessive exercise, and everyday laxative abuse which I know really didn't help me at all. Before my body reached that state of screaming for help.
Which isn't as bad at all compared to other people. But I think that goes to show just how dangerous it is.
I should not have underestimated the severity of what I was actually doing to myself.
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Posted 21 July 2021 - 02:39 AM

my bmi is almost down to 15 and I'm already feeling a little "funny"... I don't think its my heart though
by sudden death do they mean your heart will stop suddenly?

Yes. They are talking about sudden cardiac death. Key word being sudden. You don't get a warning.
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Posted 21 July 2021 - 02:15 PM

Yes. They are talking about sudden cardiac death. Key word being sudden. You don't get a warning.

I find it a bit hard to believe there would be zero medical indications you're about to drop dead ... wouldn't a doctor be able to tell there's something wrong with a person's heart?


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Posted 21 July 2021 - 06:49 PM

I find it a bit hard to believe there would be zero medical indications you're about to drop dead ... wouldn't a doctor be able to tell there's something wrong with a person's heart?

I worked in a cardiac ICU for a decade and am familiar with this. The name is what it is for a reason. If it wasn't sudden it would be named differently. Look up sudden cardiac death and anorexia.
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Posted 21 July 2021 - 06:57 PM

Sudden death can happen at any weight. It depends on your eating habits and how long/low you've been restricting. Naturally, your heart gets weaker the lower your BMI is because the muscle is wasting away. If you purge or low restrict, you might have an electrolyte imbalance. 

 

A BMI of 15 is considered severely underweight. Your doctor isn't just trying to scare you, he wants the best for you. Please stay safe <3. EDs can kill at any time. You can be fine one minute, and feel close to dying the next. 


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Posted 22 July 2021 - 02:16 PM

from my own experience, if you are purging -- especially frequently at an underweight bmi -- then yes, you have a high chance of dropping dead. i think that if you are purely restricting, your odds are better, but they depend on just how much weight you have lost in a given amount of time.


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Posted 22 July 2021 - 08:17 PM

well this is freaking me out

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Posted 22 July 2021 - 09:45 PM

She is not just trying to scare you, you absolutely can


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